Monday, January 21, 2008

Final Update - the demise of Lincoln McLean...

I stopped updating this site because I found adding photo's cumbersome on here and much easier on my Facebook page. However, one of the purposes of the site originally was to record the terrible time we were having with Lincoln McLean, hoping that other potential clients of his would see this and think twice about using him, so I will summarise what has happened with him to date.

Unfortunately our legal case went nowhere as the solicitor couldn't guarantee more than a 50% chance of recovering any monies so our insurance wouldn't cover any further proceedings. A private investigator had found that Lincoln has no assets to his name and 14 CCJs totalling £35k already.

I wasn't happy to leave it at that so purely for my own satisfaction, I searched for his name on the internet and wrote to all the sites that I could find that mentioned his services, explaining our experiences with him and asking that they remove his name from their listings. I am happy to say that most did after various conversations and evidence was submitted.

I also made a format complaint to Consumer Services who said that they would pass the details onto Trading Standards Office but that I would only hear back if they wanted to pursue it and I couldn't call the TSO direct. What a load of rubbish - I didn't hear anything for a month so I called Consumer Services again and a much more helpful person then advised that I write to the Trading Standards Office at Kent County Council so I did. I sent them a timeline of events and all the legal paperwork that the solicitors had generated. The TSO called me back within 2 days and advised that several complaints had already been made against LM and that I should call the guy handling the case at the Official Receivers Office.

The chap at the Official Receivers Office was very helpful and sympathetic but thought that my evidence was probably too late to add to the already pending court case, but asked that I send it to him anyway which I did. I then received a phone call from an inspector at the Dept for Trade and Industry who had received my evidence and wanted to meet up to review it with me. I had a 3 hour interview with him where we went through my evidence with a fine tooth comb which resulted in a 10 page statement which I hope they have managed to submit as additional evidence in the case against Lincoln McLean.

I believe LM is going to court sometime in this first qtr of 2008 and both the ORO and DTI say they will let me know of any outcome. I will post again if I hear back. They think that there is enough evidence to send him to jail. Apparently he has already been in jail twice before for fraud and has been bankrupt since 2000 - you can search for him here - http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/eiir/ - if only I'd known about the insolvency listings before!

So that's it really. Although we won't see our 9 grand back, it is satisfying that something might be coming out of this. Our house is liveable now but there is still lots of work outside that needs to be done but because of Lincoln, we have now run out of money to finish it. We have a baby on the way so are down to one salary so the rest will have to wait till I am back at work. I just hope the chimney stack and guttering survives another year!

I am pleased to see that someone else has created a website warning against Lincoln McLean which seems to have detered a few potential clients of LMs from using him. That's really good news! They have linked to my site and also taken one of my quotes from a directory where I logged a bad review for LM. If you have anything to say please post it here http://www.lincolnmclean.weballistics.com/comments.html

If only people who had used him before us would have taken the trouble to report him or bad mouth him on the internet, perhaps we wouldn't have lost out so badly.

Caroline

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Anonymous said...

Dear Caroline and Terry

So sorry to hear that you were victims of Lincoln McLean's fraudulenet business conduct. I, too, am a victim.

He conned me out of £10,500 in July 07 - and I went all out to notify as many authorities and businesses that I could think of - the VAT man, DTI, local police, kitchen companies etc. I was told pretty soon enough that as he was a long-term brankrupt there'd be no chance of getting any refund of monies. So I've had to remortage in order to pay someone else to do all the work I'd already paid for.

I was on the verge of a breakdown from it all.

Anyway, my story is so long it took up 25 pages on my statement for the court case!

Like you, I had to "live" upstairs for almost 6 months until the downstairs was completed by the new and trustworthy builder (he was only working weekends for me which is why it took so long and I had the whole downstairs refurbished, not just a new kitchen). Was like living in a building site, as I bet you can appreciate having done it yourselves.

Not sure if you've been told yet, but Lincoln pleaded guilty to all charges recently and is awaiting sentence at present. Let's hope they put him away again, eh? For longer this time hopefully.

Anyway, there's nothing much we can do but warn others and also to try to get on with our lives and put this horrible experience behind us.

Your kitchen looks lovely, by the way (no thanks to LM!).

All the best!

Mr Ripp Edoff said...

I have had contact from a TV station asking If I have contact with anyone who got ripped off by lincoln Mclean. It could be advantageous to you. If your interested Ill forward the email I recieved and then If you want to you can contact them. I wont pass on your email address to anyone or post it on the blog.
http://lincolnmclean-kitchens.blogspot.com/

David said...

Hi Caroline & Terry,

I'm writing an article for trade mag Essential Kitchen & Bathroom Business on the court case, etc. I'd love to get a comment from you if poss - deadline looming so ASAP, please!
Call on 10206 851117 ex 280.

Regards,

David

Anonymous said...

Hello

I am trying to email mr rip edoff but am having no joy, every time i put the address in it tells me it is wrong!!
I am also a very angry customer of Lincoln McLean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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